believe it's been cleaned up. what's the president's view? >> well, chris, as you heard from the president, both last night and again today, he has taken direct action in response to the report issued by the inspector general. secretary lew asked for and accepted the resignation of the acting irs commissioner. the president is nominating or putting forward a new acting irs commissioner. he is instructing everyone involved in this to make sure we get all of the facts that underlie the i.g. report. he's made clear that the behavior, the conduct documented in that report is absolutely inappropriate. it is wrong. and it undermines the confidence that the american people need to have that the irs is neutral and fair in the way that it applies our tax laws. so, you know, he is outraged by this. you've heard him say that. and i can tell you i know it's true. and, you know, he, as he said today, when his job as chief executive, as the president of the united states, is to take action when problems are discovered. to fix those problems. and that's what he's going to do. >> yes, but outrage is good. the words are good. getting rid of that guy, miller, is good, because it was appropriate for him to retire, resign. is he going to be satisfied, this president, with one head? or doesn't he -- you know the public relations here. if the american people are filling out their taxes next year, know the irs is still packed with the same people, it's a problem. isn't it? or is it? >> well, chris, i mean, if you're suggesting that i should randomly fire people now -- >> no, will he be happy if he doesn't fire people? >> we need to get all of the facts, and he has made clear that people who are responsible for failures will be held accountable. he will demand it. we need all the facts. we have the i.g.'s report. >> i understood that's the requirement, but in the end, we got some news here, jay.